What Matters Podcast

What Matters, Episode 22: Finding Your Path with Bryan Liles

Navigating the world of tech can be difficult. What programming language should I learn? What technology will move my career forward? How do I get paid the big bucks?

Often, we see what we want when we look to our leaders.

In this episode of What Matters, PJ sits down with Bryan Liles, principal engineer with VMware, to talk about how he built a career and how he empowers others to achieve their best — even with the deck stacked against them.

What Matters, Episode 22: Finding Your Path

Bryan and PJ have a storied past of coming up together in tech. Here, they share some of the stories of starting out, and Bryan gives excellent advice to those beginning their journey. The first point of which is this: Your career IS a journey — not a rocket ship ride to the top. 

Have a listen for some great career advice and perspectives from someone who has moved forward every step while accepting the feeling of being an outsider and handling it the only way he knew how: by including everyone he met along the way.

Listen to What Matters now! 

What Matters, Episode 22 is now available to listen to or download. Check out the full episode — and all our episodes — now available from Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Spotify, SoundCloud, and wherever you want to listen in! 

About the Show

What Matters is a bi-weekly podcast from the folks at Mattermost where we take a look at all the things we enjoy about the communities we are a part of — open source, ChatOps, DevOps, Go, and everything in between — and distill it into a podcast hosted by Senior Developer Advocate PJ Hagerty. Reach out and let us know what topics, guests, and other ideas you have for the show!

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PJ is the founder of DevRelate.io, a board member of Open Sourcing Mental Health (OSMHhelp.org), and a Developer Relations Consultant to mattermost. Additionally, PJ is a developer, writer, speaker, and musician. He is known to travel the world speaking about programming and the way people think and interact. He can be reached at [email protected]